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Episode 72: Keller Williams – From Training Company to Tech Company with Angie Ponsell

“Having the data just helps Kelle become smarter and smarter – and whoever owns the data owns the market and that’s true for everything…



Last week on the podcast, we had CEO ofย First National Ray Ellisย who mentioned that a great company to watch in the US is Keller Williams (KW) and this week our guest,ย Angie Ponsell is from Keller Williamsย in Atlanta, Georgia. Angie Ponsell has been with the company for all of her 17 years in real estate and she says Keller Williams has always been more of a training company than a traditional real estate โ€˜franchiseโ€™.ย 

But under the stewardship of industry legendย Gary Kellerย (The One Thing)ย the company is making deliberate changes to morph fromย training company to tech company – so that his team of 180,000 agents worldwide can meet the changing demands of consumers while taking advantage of big data.ย 

Keller Williams has been making a number of purchases from its $1B tech fund, including a Philadelphia startup calledย Smarter Agent,ย a large property management software platform, a home inspection product and a company that is focused on data, AI, predictive intelligence and contract analysis – all evidence ofย Keller’s vision of the company ‘owning their data’ – and therefore their destiny – rather than ‘giving it up’ to technology companies.ย 

But our chat with Angie is not all about tech
ย – itโ€™s as much about how to have a successful career through all sorts of markets as real estate becomes more โ€˜internationalโ€™, how to navigate ups/downs and uncertainties, plus Angieโ€™s advice for dealing with difficult clients.

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Episode host: Samantha McLean
Special guest: Angie Ponsell, Keller Williams

SHOW NOTES / LINKS

03:34ย ย  ย ย  Angieโ€™s focus area of Sandy Springs (just outside of Atlanta) and what real estate is like in that area – apartments to multi-million dollar properties
05:30ย ย ย  ย ย  Angie specialises in ‘ranch houses’ – single level with a basement, but not big land areas
06:50ย ย  ย ย  When Angie and Sam met in Australia – and some of the differences between selling in Australia and in the US (Angie is a listing agent 75% listing – 25% representing buyers agents)
08:13ย ย  ย ย  Why Angie prefers to be a listing agent
08:45ย ย  ย ย  โ€œAs a listing agent I like it when the buyers are represented because then Iโ€™m dealing with another agent and the emotions are taken out of it and weโ€™re able to get the deal done…โ€
09:48ย ย  ย ย  Angie has been in real estate for 17 years, how she came to work for KW, what is different about the KW model and why it appeals to so many
10:37ย ย  ย ย  The road to uncapped commission with KW – once you get to a certain number of sales you keep 100 per cent of your commission
11:14ย ย  ย ย  โ€œKeller Williams is — we call it a training company and now we’re moving into a technology company that just happens to be in real estateโ€
11:45ย ย  ย ย  KW is privately owned, doesnโ€™t do any advertising and shares profits.
12:24ย ย  ย ย  โ€œYouโ€™re a Keller Williams agent, but you can brand yourself to be whoever you wantโ€
13:19ย ย  ย ย  Some advice fromย Gary Keller – from Theย One Thingย – and why that has been some of the best advice Angie has had
15:11ย ย  ย ย  The messages Gary is giving the company the ‘need for speed’ in winning the race for data
15:46ย ย  ย ย  The advantages of being a private company versus being a publicly listed company – ย it allows you to try new things more quickly without answering to shareholders
18:00ย ย  ย ย  Keller Cloud andย Kelle the Virtual Assistantย – what are they like to use and how do they fit into the broader KW strategy
18:50ย ย  ย ย  โ€œKelle is getting smarter and smarter every day, the more we use herย – the smarter she will be.โ€
21:52ย ย  ย ย  The purchase of Smarter Agent and how that adds to the data that KW now owns
23:22ย ย  ย ย  How big data will change property marketing
25:13ย ย  ย ย  Difficult clients and what do do about them
25:50ย ย  ย ย  Will KW ever come to Australia?
26:38ย ย  ย ย  The market in 2019 – the shift is not limited to Australia
26:50ย ย  ย ย  “There’s always buyers and sellers no matter what cycle you are in, no matter what market you are in.โ€
27:18ย ย  ย ย  How Angie has approached various market downturns in her 17 years in real estate.

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Samantha McLean

Samantha McLean is the Co-founder and Managing Editor of Elite Agent, Australia's trusted platform for real estate news, insights, and community connection. With over 20 years in sales and marketing across respected global companies, Samantha brings practical expertise and thoughtful leadership to the industry. Since founding Elite Agent, Samantha has grown the brand from a magazine into a dynamic media hub that includes the Elevate podcast, daily newsletters, and engaging industry events. Her approachable style and genuine curiosity have earned Elite Agent recognition, including multiple Mumbrella awards for excellence. Samantha is passionate about exploring how technology, especially artificial intelligence, can improve productivity and client relationships without losing the essential human touch. She regularly discusses these topics with industry experts on the Elevate podcast. She holds a Bachelor of Business from the University of Technology Sydney. Connect with Samantha at Elite Agent or aipoweredagents.com or visit her personal website samanthamclean.com.